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[shifty_ninja]

NoCheat Bypasses are found the whole time, some are private, some are released to the public, there are certain ways to help you find bypasses more easily, here are some ways:

• Read the nocheat src: this will help you understand how it blocks the hacks, so that you can find a way around it, find a link to the src here: https://github.com/Evenprime/NoCheat
  
• Try to comply with nocheat, for example to fly on nocheat you can spoof a packet which tells the server you are leaving a bed(when you leave a bed your server position resets).
  
• Try and think about the result of many simple methods in the minecraft src, for example if you were hurt and were knockbacked could you control where you go?

That's just my simple tutorial for today, expect more.

P.S. please give me feedback on the style of my tutorials.

Edited by shifty_ninja, 12 July 2012 - 09:11 PM.

[DeCoolJB]

Smart server owners would stay with a good plugin (NoCheat), unfortunately, the problem is: that isn't the case.  Instead they choose NoCheat+ or AntiCheat because they're dumb as fuck.

[shifty_ninja]

DeCoolJB, on 10 July 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Smart server owners would stay with a good plugin (NoCheat), unfortunately, the problem is: that isn't the case.  Instead they choose NoCheat+ or AntiCheat because they're dumb as fuck.

Very true, often with AntiCheat or NoCheat+, when a lag spike appears everyone appears to be hacking.

[NotDoctorThor]

DeCoolJB, on 10 July 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

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Well some server owners dislike NoCheat because it can lag the server. I think it's because of the anti X-ray feature that constantly renders blocks out of about a 30 some block range as random ores rather than just blank blocks.

[StoneZapper]

NotDoctorThor, on 10 July 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

Well some server owners dislike NoCheat because it can lag the server. I think it's because of the anti X-ray feature that constantly renders blocks out of about a 30 some block range as random ores rather than just blank blocks.

That's Orefuscator (probably misspelled) another plugin that handles anti-xray. NoCheat & NoCheat+ do not have any features to stop xray hacking.

[m1enkrafft_man]

NotDoctorThor, on 10 July 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

DeCoolJB, on 10 July 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

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Well some server owners dislike NoCheat because it can lag the server. I think it's because of the anti X-ray feature that constantly renders blocks out of about a 30 some block range as random ores rather than just blank blocks.

You're thinking of "Orebfuscator", which is NOT a part of NoCheat. (StoneZapper ninja'd me)

OT: All of this is common sense; if a skid programmer can't figure out to look into the source of the thing he's trying to bypass, then he/she should die in a fire probably go back to the basics. Not knowing how something works and then attempting to "outsmart" it is like playing chess with a chess master, and you think you're playing checkers.

Edited by m1enkrafft_man, 10 July 2012 - 10:24 PM.

[rakiru]

m1enkrafft_man, on 10 July 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

All of this is common sense; if a skid programmer can't figure out to look into the source of the thing he's trying to bypass, then he/she should die in a fire probably go back to the basics. Not knowing how something works and then attempting to "outsmart" it is like playing chess with a chess master, and you think you're playing checkers.

This is pretty much all I was going to say - it's fucking common sense, and also, not a tutorial. Oh, and tutorials go in the Tutorials section, oddly enough.

[killernerd]

it is indeed common sense. Also,  your link is dead.

[BHeart]

killernerd, on 11 July 2012 - 07:53 AM, said:

it is indeed common sense. Also,  your link is dead.

Remove the . after NoCheat

[killernerd]

aha, i see. Ignore my previous post then :)

[rakiru]

Another point: somewhat retarded to read the NoCheat source rather than NoCheat+ and/or similar, as it is no longer being developed.

[Coruscantian]

rakiru, on 11 July 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Another point: somewhat retarded to read the NoCheat source rather than NoCheat+ and/or similar, as it is no longer being developed.

Are those more widely used now than working copies of NoCheat? Goddamn.

[Hellparty]

coruscantian, on 11 July 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

rakiru, on 11 July 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Another point: somewhat retarded to read the NoCheat source rather than NoCheat+ and/or similar, as it is no longer being developed.

Are those more widely used now than working copies of NoCheat? Goddamn.

They are, sadly. And AntiCheat is used just as widely as NoCheat+ (in my experience anyway).
To be honest I think that servers have been much less secure ever since Evenprime ceased developing NoCheat.

[oxguy3]

Umm, you guys do know that NoCheatPlus is a fork of NoCheat, right? So it's the basically the same exact code with not much change, and isn't?

Anywho, here are the repos of the up-to-date cheat plugins for anyone who wants them:
NoCheatPlus: https://github.com/N...ter/NoCheatPlus
AntiCheat: https://github.com/h31ix/AntiCheat

Also, just for the record, NoCheatPlus has 66k downloads and AntiCheat has 44k downloads on BukkitDev. So if you're gonna pick one to adapt your client to, I'd pick NoCheatPlus.

Edited by oxguy3, 19 July 2012 - 04:40 PM.

[Czahyl]

oxguy3, on 19 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Umm, you guys do know that NoCheatPlus is a fork of NoCheat, right? So it's the basically the same exact code with not much change, and isn't?

Anywho, here are the repos of the up-to-date cheat plugins for anyone who wants them:
NoCheatPlus: https://github.com/N...ter/NoCheatPlus
AntiCheat: https://github.com/h31ix/AntiCheat

NC+ is still being worked on, while NC dev was stopped some time ago, so the NC+ source is different to a certain extent (I haven't looked at NC+ yet)

[Komeko]

Meh me and my friend are going to try to learn all three programs and we might try to bypass them. Some hacks may not work for all of them but if we can know the plugins that most people use than we can aim to NC+ or AntiCheat more. We will try to go for the original though as smart admins still use NC.

[rakiru]

Komeko, on 20 July 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

smart admins still use NC.

No, smart admins use NoCheat+ (possibly with some of the newer checks disabled) or a privately updated version of NoCheat (which is just NoCheat+ without the extra checks,r eally). They don't use an out-of-date plugin.

[StoneZapper]

oxguy3, on 19 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Also, just for the record, NoCheatPlus has 66k downloads and AntiCheat has 44k downloads on BukkitDev. So if you're gonna pick one to adapt your client to, I'd pick NoCheatPlus.

Technically, adapting your client to all anti-hack plugins would be the best option if you want to handle different types of servers. Although, since NC+ is stricter, you do need to at least be adapted to that. (That is, if you're not detected without using mods in the first place.)

rakiru, on 20 July 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

Komeko, on 20 July 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

smart admins still use NC.

No, smart admins use NoCheat+ (possibly with some of the newer checks disabled) or a privately updated version of NoCheat (which is just NoCheat+ without the extra checks, really). They don't use an out-of-date plugin.

As much as I hate NC+, I do have to agree with this, somewhat. NC+ does have more checks, but the amount of false-positives may veer some owners into using a more lenient plugin such as NoCheat or AntiCheat.

At this point though, all anti-hacking plugins have serious flaws. You'll just have to decide which is best.
NoCheat - outdated (usually works fine, but bypasses won't be patched)
NoCheatPlus - over-restrictive
AntiCheat - also buggy